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Zita'sMom
post Apr 9 2009, 01:11 PM
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My thread is at Goodbye Rosie Goodbye Family, but I really need all your prayers.

My last 5 year old cat Zeus cat threw up late last night and wasn't purring so I knew he wasn't feeling well. He didn't eat this morning so I phoned the vet. He was acting totally normal until late last night.

He has a urinary blockage and is undergoing surgery. He is 5 years old. I've had a lot of losses, and I really need him to pull through this. The vet said that he may have kidney damage. He appeared really healthy until this.

Unfortunately it's a long weekend and they need me to decide whether to bring him home, to leave him at a different vet's office, one I've never been to, or take him to another city for 24 hour hospitalization. The local vet's office does not have 24 hour surveillance, and I'm tempted to bring him home. But on the other hand, I'm not sure about what complications there could be - does anyone have advice on this?

Need some advice quickly...

thanks

Jan.
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post Apr 11 2009, 10:10 AM
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So sorry, Jan, I missed all of this latest with you and Zeus.. I only have a minute here, but just wanted to add (what else?) a different slant on this.

Sabin had a few episodes of FLUTD, too, when he was younger, doing the licking thing, etc. He never did block, thankfully, but I had to monitor him for quite awhile. However, as usual, I did things differently, and as usual, it was (what else but?) homeopathic treatment that got rid of that problem for good. Before we had our integrative vet, as most cats do with regular vets, he got put on a 'preventive' canned food - for about a year, I think it was. He didn't care much for the stuff. Later, I found out more about what's in such food (already posted extensively on such things long ago, so wont' repeat myself here) and once I had our better vet, we pulled him off it. Along with the homeopathic modality, that's also when I began doing a raw food diet along with their high-quality canned food (NOT preventive stuff), and we never had another problem with any of that. What I learned, in essence, was that it's basically crappy food that most often causes crystal formation in the first place. So as I and all the "experts" keep saying, a high quality (and more natural if possible) diet is the single most key piece to the prevention of illness in the first place.

You want to avoid having that permanent catheterization operation if at ALL possible, as more cats than not have terrible problems once their urethra & penis has been removed, so it's no fun for either them or their people. There's lots of info. on the web about that now but that's what I learned from our vet long before such articles were so widely 'out there.'

The natural anti-inflammatory supplement might help, I'd hazard to guess, simply because it's helping to remove &/or avoid bodily inflammation in the first place.....if it also targets general inflammation and not just in joints. There are a number of good supplements that can be used for preventing &/or treating crystal formation, in both western herbals and Chinese herbals, but you need to have qualified vet. supervision in using them. Much, in the way of proper treatment, also depends on exactly which KIND(s) of crystals are present.

No, it's not great that Zeus is only checked up on every once in awhile at the clinic, but it's a tough call, and that's often the problem with rural living, with no Emerg. clinics close enough by. The lone Emerg. clinic we had when Sabin needed one (only once, and not for this, but for his initial collapse prior to his cancer diagnosis) was about an hour away, in the heart of the city. (things have expanded a lot since then)

In the meantime, you could try the same exercise I'd suggested to NM - here. (should be right up your alley)
You should also check out: this , even though it will now only be available as an "On Demand" class (not live, but the info. still downloadable with the smaller payment), and this, on food ingredients. And as always, there is often an emotional component to urinary blockages as well, so FEs can help as well (not going to link to all those I've posted as there are many, which can be found by using the search feature or "find member's topics" feature).

Here's a short list of some holistic vets around you, from another forum with people's recommendations:

Dr. Marlene Smith is the most amazing and incredible veterinarian. She does Traditional Chinese Medicine, acupuncture, western herbs, Chiropractic, homeopathy, essences and more. She also will work long distance around the world, with your regular veterinarian. She trains veterinarians in acupuncture in the U.S. and Canada and she is a past president of The American Holistic Veterinary Association. She is an incredibly warm, loving and gifted person. She works closely with Dr. Heather Matheson who shares her clinic with her, works with her, and is also incredibly amazing. They are the perfect team !!

The address is 1777 Riverside Lane, Courtenay B.C. Canada 250 338-2316 email is treeoflifevet@shaw.ca


Dr. Jane Kettner, is a wonderful friendly and talented animal Chiropractor. I have seen her do amazing things to help animals. Her address is 1389 Slater St. Victoria B.C. Canada V8X 2P8 her phone number is 250 384-3732 email is jkettnerdc@shaw.ca


My dog goes to Kindred Spirits Veterinary Hospital Inc.

Phone:250-380-9611
Address: 1248 Fort Street, Victoria, BC V8V 3L2 Canada

They do acupuncture, homeopathy, herbs, and Chinese medicine as well as regular vet stuff. There are two vets working.


One of my clients has had great sucess with Dr. Alison Baylea in Victoria B.C. She does acupuncture and is a holistic veterinarian. She is also at Kindred Spirits.
Phone:250-380-9611 Address: 1248 Fort Street, Victoria, BC V8V 3L2 Canada

I know there are even more homeo. vets in Vancouver, some of whom would likely work over the phone. At least one of them has taken advanced training with Dr. Pitcairn, too. See one such list here. (I notice there's a mobile vet there, too; not sure where-all she works, though)

Zeus and you are in my thoughts during yet another difficult time!


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post Apr 12 2009, 01:28 PM
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Hi F's mom

Thanks for all the resources. I am familiar with most of them and have even visited a few.

I am very uncertain about which route to go with holistic or vet based medicine. I myself went to a naturopath and acupuncturist when I had what turned out to be some life threatening health problems, and I almost died, literally. I haven't had success with the naturopathic diet for myself. The naturopath I went to suggested all sorts of things for me that I am extremely allergic to (and these were the results of her own allergy testing). The diet was so limiting and restrictive that there were basically no fruits I could eat... etc etc. So I am of very mixed opinion about some of the holistic practictioners out there.

I do agree that pet food is basically junk, and probably the vet pet food, is junk with meds added. I spoke to the vet tech about holistic alternatives and she believes that the diet Zeus is on is the safest right now.

I am really not sure. I really prefer animals to eat fresh foods, but I don't want to make matters worse right now. I know someone else who was going to one of the naturopathic vets for her dogs with cancer and the results were quite limited. This is not to say it wouldn't work for another animal, or that another practitioner may have a better plan, but just that I haven't had very positive experiences with some of the local holistic practitioners.

Having said that I am open to putting Zeus on a raw food diet or other diet, if there is evidence and support for this plan. It's so confusing with all the various opinions.

I will look into this more and appreciate any info you are offering. This morning I have the joy of working on my separation agreement. I am sure worn out!

Jan.


QUOTE (Furkidlets' Mom @ Apr 11 2009, 11:10 AM) *
So sorry, Jan, I missed all of this latest with you and Zeus.. I only have a minute here, but just wanted to add (what else?) a different slant on this.

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Zeus and you are in my thoughts during yet another difficult time!

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- Zita'sMom   Need Advice Quickly - Zeus Has A Urinary Blockage   Apr 9 2009, 01:11 PM
- - patricia   i had the same problem with my cat riley . i would...   Apr 9 2009, 01:25 PM
- - goliath   QUOTE (Zita'sMom @ Apr 9 2009, 02:11 ...   Apr 9 2009, 03:13 PM
- - Zita'sMom   Hi Patricia, Beth Thank you both for the advice. ...   Apr 10 2009, 12:43 AM
|- - Nemo's Mommy   QUOTE (Zita'sMom @ Apr 10 2009, 12:43...   Apr 10 2009, 09:04 AM
|- - Zita'sMom   QUOTE (Nemo's Mommy @ Apr 10 2009, 10...   Apr 10 2009, 11:38 PM
- - patricia   hi jan! im so happy you decided to leave zeus ...   Apr 10 2009, 11:58 AM
|- - Zita'sMom   QUOTE (patricia @ Apr 10 2009, 12:58 PM) ...   Apr 10 2009, 11:41 PM
- - Bue's Mommy   Hi Jan, sorry for ringing in so late here. I had t...   Apr 10 2009, 05:32 PM
|- - Zita'sMom   QUOTE (Bue's Mommy @ Apr 10 2009, 06...   Apr 10 2009, 11:45 PM
|- - patricia   He will be on preventative food for the rest of hi...   Apr 13 2009, 12:18 PM
||- - Zita'sMom   QUOTE (patricia @ Apr 13 2009, 01:18 PM) ...   Apr 14 2009, 03:03 AM
|- - Bue's Mommy   QUOTE (Zita'sMom @ Apr 11 2009, 12:45...   Apr 16 2009, 01:31 AM
|- - Zita'sMom   QUOTE (Bue's Mommy @ Apr 16 2009, 02...   Apr 16 2009, 10:40 AM
- - Grieving in Michigan   I'm glad Zeus made it through the surgery. Ho...   Apr 10 2009, 07:34 PM
|- - Zita'sMom   QUOTE (Grieving in Michigan @ Apr 10 2009, 08...   Apr 10 2009, 11:55 PM
- - Furkidlets' Mom   So sorry, Jan, I missed all of this latest with yo...   Apr 11 2009, 10:10 AM
|- - Zita'sMom   Hi F's mom Thanks for all the resources. I am...   Apr 12 2009, 01:28 PM
- - Zita'sMom   Hello all. Thanks for the support, and at the mom...   Apr 12 2009, 01:17 PM
- - sissycat   Just wanted to say hello and I'm coming in lat...   Apr 12 2009, 02:53 PM
- - toonie   That certainly sounds like the news we were hoping...   Apr 12 2009, 04:33 PM
- - Mink&WillowsMom   Hi all, my Rohan had blockage last August, hospita...   Apr 18 2009, 12:48 AM
|- - Zita'sMom   QUOTE (Mink&WillowsMom @ Apr 18 2009, 01...   Apr 18 2009, 11:55 PM
- - Mink&WillowsMom   The first vet was all about selling me the food, b...   Apr 19 2009, 09:46 AM
- - Furkidlets' Mom   Please see this and this, as well as these: ...   Apr 19 2009, 12:40 PM
|- - Zita'sMom   Hi F's Mom Thanks for all the resources. I h...   Apr 22 2009, 10:55 PM
- - Mink&WillowsMom   FABULOUS NEWS!!! I'm going to sha...   Apr 22 2009, 11:10 AM
|- - Zita'sMom   QUOTE (Mink&WillowsMom @ Apr 22 2009, 12...   Apr 22 2009, 10:58 PM
- - Nemo's Mommy   Hey Jan, Hope Zeus is doing well! I would ju...   Apr 24 2009, 02:56 PM
|- - Zita'sMom   QUOTE (Nemo's Mommy @ Apr 24 2009, 03...   Apr 25 2009, 11:19 PM
- - Furkidlets' Mom   Some really good info. there, NM, for Jan's co...   Apr 24 2009, 03:42 PM
- - Nemo's Mommy   Ahhhh..... that is very good information, also...   Apr 24 2009, 06:26 PM
- - Nemo's Mommy   Well, and I got slightly off the subject there wit...   Apr 24 2009, 06:45 PM
- - AngelCareOne   jan! oh my gosh! i am reading as fast as i...   Apr 25 2009, 07:45 PM
|- - Zita'sMom   QUOTE (AngelCareOne @ Apr 25 2009, 08:45 ...   Apr 25 2009, 11:22 PM
|- - AngelCareOne   {{{{{Jan}}}}} All that is gosh awful! I'm ...   Apr 26 2009, 01:40 AM
- - Nemo's Mommy   Oh Jan, I am sorry things are so rough right now....   Apr 28 2009, 04:45 PM


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