Hi Jan, sounds like you have a lot on your plate. Things will be ok. I don't like killing anything. I got angry at my boss the other night for stepping on a spider. I had a mouse in my garage. Tried traps even the snappy one I hate. This thing avoided EVERYTHING I tried. It even got into my new car and chewed a wire and it cost my 125.00 to fix. Yet, I fed him everynight. Long story real short, the smoke alarm wet off, and I think it ran out the door, either that or it ate itself to death. I like watching Ceasar Milan too, very fasintating, even though I never owned a dog. Also been watching Dog Town too. That one tugs at my heart alot. Hang in Jan..Hugs.Ann

{{{{{{{Jan}}}}}}} You're very welcome. And oh my gosh! Like Ann said, you do have a lot on your plate. I see that you, Ann and me are having a gosh awful hard time with coping. I pray it gets better for us and everyone here at LS. You surely know I do.

And here it is in song. Please see my PS. at the bottom for the other version.
I wish you Om Shanti my Friend! And to Ann, too!







Many Comforting Hugs and Much Love!!!

Always,
Dottie xoxoxox

PS. Here's another version with awesome scenery and it doesn't have the two skips that the top one has where you click on the image. It's lovely! Please click on the link.

"Someday"

More Hugs!!!

Oh wow, Dottie - that picture is so cool! It looks 3D - amazing - and I love the purples. Thank you!

And Ann, thanks for your thoughtful comments too. We actually did have a mouse eat itself to death. This is gross but we found it in one of the old dog food bins that we hadn't been using. It had some old stale dogfood in it and I guess the mousy got in and couldn't get out. I too have had to bring in an electrician (not in this house, thank God) because of mice chewing my hot water heater wires. We have plugged every imaginable crack to the house so I'm crossing my fingers that our problem is solved!

Oh and this is kinda neat - I went to find a pic of an angel cat to post a song for Ziggy - look what I found. I'll show you in the next post.

Thanks again both of you and sending you much care, healing and joy (if you can find even just a little in your day)! I was thinking about Dottie's earlier post on your thread about seeing Alex and your husband in a dream and I think these things do reassure us.

I wonder why Ziggy and Zita don't show up in my dreams, while Merlin, my faithful old boy, is regularly there...? Any thoughts? I have had dreams where I thought it was Zita, and the same type of dream for Ziggy, but then when I looked closer it wasn't. I like to think that maybe they are preparing for a transition here!! I saw two orange tabby kitties today - they were males and one was a little troublemaker I could tell - oh so cute though. They are not "the ones" and I am definitely not ready, but it got me researching every possible form of cat run/ enclosure imaginable. We will see - an animal communicator said that two special orange tabbies would show up in February and I "would know". Well, I don't believe all of that most of the time, but I really want to believe it. Anyway, I know that I "would know" if I knew, if you know what I mean!!!

As for my doggie problems I am taking both my seizure prone dogs, Asha and Chance to have thyroid testing on the vet's suggestion. I wish I could talk to Cesar Milan - oh would that be great - but I can't even apply to his show because I'm in Canada. And I think he's kind of a busy guy anyway. But wouldn't that be great to meet him....!

take care all!

Jan

This is a real book about a cat that died but then, as an angel, saved a family...



I thought she looked a lot like Ziggy, and she was a female orange tabby, then I noticed the pink collar - wow! Ziggy always wore a pink collar. The only difference is that Ziggy had orange on her nose, but otherwise she could be Ziggy's caricature - even the green eyes and the white markings.

And here's my song for Ziggy and Zita:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J8q4cBSkTQ


"Here Without You"

A hundred days have made me older
Since the last time that I saw your pretty face
A thousand lies have made me colder
And I don't think I can look at this the same
But all the miles that separate
Disappear now when I'm dreaming of your face

I'm here without you baby
But you're still on my lonely mind
I think about you baby
And I dream about you all the time
I'm here without you baby
But you're still with me in my dreams
And tonight it's only you and me

The miles just keep rollin'
As the people leave their way to say hello
I've heard this life is overrated
But I hope that it gets better as we go

I'm here without you baby
But you're still on my lonely mind
I think about you baby
And I dream about you all the time
I'm here without you baby
But you're still with me in my dreams
And tonight girl its only you and me

Everything I know, and anywhere I go
It gets hard but it wont take away my love
And when the last one falls
When it's all said and done
It gets hard but it wont take away my love

I'm here without you baby
But you're still on my lonely mind
I think about you baby
And I dream about you all the time
I'm here without you baby
But you're still with me in my dreams
And tonight girl its only you and me

Oh and p.s. Dottie, I forgot to say that I love that song you linked to me. I am going to add it to our singing list at a spiritual group I belong to. Thanks for sharing that.

***ooo

or "kiss kiss", as the British say... or is that just Monty Python, I can't remember....

Jan.

oh and p.s.s. I ordered the book off ebay! I can't wait for it! I am such a kid, huh?

Jan.

Hi Jan-------I hope you get some 'dream' visits soon.It's so comforting when that happens.I wish I had a few more from Willy myself,but alas,none for a few weeks or so.An interesting thought occured to me tonite before I went to work.I was sitting outside the hotel before the show tonite and the last thing I wanted was to play music (in fact,this same feeling has been happening ever since I got this new gig.My first night with the show was just a few days after Willy died).Any way,I knew I could trudge through it.As soon as I girded myself to go back in,it dawned on me that Willy(and ALL our babies for that matter) was being taken care of in his new life and before I can be with him again I (and all of us ) have to stay here for whatever reason, on earth to finish certain tasks before being allowed to join the kids.Not a second before or after can we be with them.I guess this is no great revelation but for some reason it gave me solace and made sense.Sometimes I think I might forget him and his ways but as soon as I deliberatly think about him he starts to become clear again.I guess if we diligently think about the kids and never give up they will be our final thought when it is our time and they will be there for us when we slip to the other side.I'm not sure what else we can do.I'm babbling but I hope this helped.Let's all pray for vivid dreams about the kids tonite.God bless ziggy and zita and willy.Take care Jan,
Bubba...............

Hi, Jan! You're very welcome indeed. I love that image and song, too. Ewww. Ewww. Ewww about your mousey problem but I'm so glad it got resolve. Whewww! That's a load off ... For now at least.

Oh, I read all three posts. I do that PS. thing lots and lots. Thoughts just keep coming to me. What an amazing photo of what I take is the cover to the book. And what a wonderful, wonderful book! You said you ordered it on e-Bay? Please let me know how you like it after it's delivered and you've had the time to read it. I'm saving that Angel kitty image to my files, too. Awesome! And what a wonderful song, too. Wow! I love, love, love the video you left on my thread and did respond to you there using images. I hope you like it, Jan.

The Angel kitty image you posted does look a lot like Ziggy to me, too. I mean from his photos that you've posted. Like an artist's depiction of Ziggy. Ain't that something? Wow!

Jan, I don't know why you don't dream about Ziggy and Zita but I have a darned good idea why I don't dream about Alex. Well, put it this way ... I did have one very, very vivid dream about Alex one time. It was either Nov. 26, 2007 or Nov. 27, 2007. I did not know I was dreaming, knew I was awake, I can tell you everything about that dream which was so joyful, joyful! It was immediately after having that dream when I experienced the first of what I can only describe as nervous breakdowns. I've never had a nervous breakdown in my life but it does fit the online description. I think I told you about them, there were 2 times, how long they lasted and how they manifested really bizarre stuff. Oy. So, my best guess when it comes to myself is that I don't dream about Alex because my psyche just can't take it. Can't handle it. I hope that made sense. Again, that's just me and it's just an educated guess.

I'm not sure if you're aware about some things concerning sleep cycles during uninterrupted sleep. Let's say for example you fall asleep and do not wake up for at least 5 to 7 hours. During that time, one experiences several REM (rapid eye movent) periods of different dreams and in-between each dream, there are blank gaps so to speak. If one does is not interrupted and does sleep those 5 to 7 to 8 hours then you will best remember the very first dream or dreams you had as well as the very last dream or dreams you had during that time. You may or may not remember at all any of the dreams which happened in the middle part of your sleep cycle. I hope I'm explaining this well. If not, I can google to find something that will explain it better ...

So, you may be dreaming about them and not remember. I may be dreaming about Alex and gosh knows what and not remember if that dream took place during the middle part of an uninterrupted sleep cycle. Ya know about those people you hear sometimes who say they never, ever dream? Oh yes they do. We need to dream (REM sleep) or we will go loony tunes if deprived of REM sleep periods. In fact, after about 3 days or more of no REM sleep, you'll either have what is known as a waking dream or ... You will hallucinate. All normal people will.

Yep, I helped volunteer while in college down in the labs but was an observer and one who made sure to wake up the sleeping volunteers whenever they went into REM sleep. Oh, they were hooked up to monitors which are very simple machines that did let you know when a person goes into REM sleep. We have more sophisticated monitors used to help people with sleeping problems and yada, yada, yada. Anyway, anytime a student volunteered for any experiments pertaining to any subject they were taking, we either got paid something like $5.00 or more depending upon the amount of time and involvement of that experiment. Or, we would receive extra credit for that class.

My Gawd. You shoulda seen them poor volunteers after a few days being deprived of REM sleep which is, like I said, when we dream. Yep, pretty much like in the movies be they comedies or otherwise. I would tell you all the stages they went through up to the point of either hallucinating or having waking dreams but it wasn't pretty. Poor kids. Better them than me. Oh, I am so bad.

Anyway, I went off on a tangent. My point was to let you know that you do have dreams that you probably don't remember if you experience a full sleep cycle of at least 5 to 7 hours. What are those dreams about? I don't know cuz I can't remember for all the reasons I just gave. Maybe our subconscious knows how painful and unbearable it would be to our psyche and physical health if we did dream about Ziggy, Zita or Alex so we either don't dream about them or do but only during that middle time when we won't be able to recall what we dreamed unless someone or something woke us up at that very point in time. Then, we would probably remember since that would make it the last dream of your sleep cycle. Dang. I hope I'm making sense.

Jan, it's amazing and astounding how our brain will protect us in ways we're unaware from those things too harsh, grim, horrifying and unbearable for us and that includes more than the dreaming stuff I just wrote about in novel form and hopefully didn't bore you to tears. Talk about "A Beautiful Mind!" Wow, great movie and great way to describe how our mind and brain protects us. But, obviously there are those whose minds are not functioning properly. Well, their brains and minds. The brain ... Oh, just tell me if you care to know cuz ... Dang! It is truly amazing indeed.

Glad to hear that you're taking both your seizure prone dogs, Asha and Chance to have thyroid testing on the vet's suggestion. And it sure would be great to get help from Cesar Milan. We've talked about him before and are both great fans indeed. His moniker of "The Dog Whisperer" is perfect for him!

I hope I didn't bore you with all that technical stuff about dreams. I thought it might be helpful giving more information to let you know why you may or may not be dreaming about Ziggy and Zita. Take care, Hon. And I'll be talking atcha more later.

Big Comforting Hugs!!!

Always,
Dottie xoxoxox

Hi Bubba

I think you are right that if we were meant to go now, we'd be gone. It's kind of like what Dottie said, that if things were meant to be any other way, they would be and they're not, so that's proof that things are what they "should" be. So we can let it drag us down or try to make the best. The injustice of Ziggy's death is what haunts me the most, and I must somehow make peace with this. But someone else told me that sometimes thing happen that become our "calling" and I know this incident has made it imperative that I talk about the value of animals in a more public way. Tearing myself up over what happened doesn't help her or me, so I feel like I have to use my feelings in some more "productive" way, though sometimes I don't feel very productive at all.

I do believe they will be there for us on the other side - for that reason death becomes a more pleasing idea, not in a sense of going before my time, but looking forward to the reunion.

take care and thanks.

your friend Jan.

Hi Dottie - oh what a "meaty" post - I love hearing your thoughts on dreams and other things.

I can't wait for the book to arrive - it's a children's book with a story about an Angel Cat who saves a family, but only the children can see her. I can't wait to see more of the kitty pic's and the artwork.

QUOTE (AngelCareOne @ Nov 11 2008, 02:24 AM)

Jan, I don't know why you don't dream about Ziggy and Zita but I have a darned good idea why I don't dream about Alex. Well, put it this way ... I did have one very, very vivid dream about Alex one time. It was either Nov. 26, 2007 or Nov. 27, 2007. I did not know I was dreaming, knew I was awake, I can tell you everything about that dream which was so joyful, joyful! It was immediately after having that dream when I experienced the first of what I can only describe as nervous breakdowns. I've never had a nervous breakdown in my life but it does fit the online description. I think I told you about them, there were 2 times, how long they lasted and how they manifested really bizarre stuff. Oy. So, my best guess when it comes to myself is that I don't dream about Alex because my psyche just can't take it. Can't handle it. I hope that made sense. Again, that's just me and it's just an educated guess.

I gotcha. That makes sense. In Gordon Smith's books about mediumship, sometimes he just can't get a connection to a loved one, but he feels there are reasons for this. Sometimes maybe they know things about the future that might not be helpful to us at the present time. One thing I've noticed, is that when I really, really want someone to come through, they just don't. But as I "let go", they do come in eventually. For example, a friend of mine died in a helicopter crash and I wanted so much to get a message from him, but I didn't. Then months later I had a dream where he just passed me in the hall and asked how I was, and it was like everything was normal and nothing had really changed. When I woke up I realized it was his way of saying hi and that everything was perfectly okay. Maybe those in the spirit world sometimes want us to move on a bit more in our lives so that we don't continually obsess over them - if we saw them every night, perhaps it would be harder to move on? Or maybe they also need time in their transition. I don't know. Did you ever see the film "Truly, Madly, Deeply"? It's about a woman who loses her partner and can't move on with her life. Then her dead husband starts visiting, and brings along lots of his spirit friends. Eventually she has to make a choice to either continue with her dead husband or move on with her real earth life... I suppose there are lessons to be learned there...

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I'm not sure if you're aware about some things concerning sleep cycles during uninterrupted sleep. Let's say for example you fall asleep and do not wake up for at least 5 to 7 hours. During that time, one experiences several REM (rapid eye movent) periods of different dreams and in-between each dream, there are blank gaps so to speak. If one does is not interrupted and does sleep those 5 to 7 to 8 hours then you will best remember the very first dream or dreams you had as well as the very last dream or dreams you had during that time. You may or may not remember at all any of the dreams which happened in the middle part of your sleep cycle. I hope I'm explaining this well.
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Anyway, anytime a student volunteered for any experiments pertaining to any subject they were taking, we either got paid something like $5.00 or more depending upon the amount of time and involvement of that experiment. Or, we would receive extra credit for that class.

My Gawd. You shoulda seen them poor volunteers after a few days being deprived of REM sleep which is, like I said, when we dream. Yep, pretty much like in the movies be they comedies or otherwise. I would tell you all the stages they went through up to the point of either hallucinating or having waking dreams but it wasn't pretty. Poor kids. Better them than me. Oh, I am so bad.

This is true what you said about sleep cycles - funny you should mention it because the night before last I "think" I dreamed that I saw Ziggy, but then remembered her dead body... but it is so vague I almost wonder if it was just a thought and not a dream. I think it may have been in that middle part of my sleep cycle, so maybe I am having more visits than I actually remember.

And wow, those experiments - that must have been something to witness! Better to experiment with willing humans than helpless animals! What kinds of things did they do or say? I find human psychology so fascinating - we are a weird bunch, aren't we, as a species!?

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Dang. I hope I'm making sense.

Oh yes, that makes perfect sense to me. And not boring at all, very fascinating!

And regarding Cesar Milan, well if he happens to be hanging around these boards, perhaps he'll contact me! Well, I know that's not likely, but my Asha needs a lot of help. I will post a pic of her here so you (or anyone else) can send her your healing thoughts.

Dottie - thanks for all your thoughts, I always like hearing your point of view and you have so much to offer here.

take care and lotsa love

Jan

Hi Jan, Asha's beautiful, I wish you all the best with her. I look for forward to a future post in Feb, saying it's true, I found them the ones!!..I get chills thinking how great that would be. I visit the shelter once a week, it really makes my day. Sometimes it is hard, knowing I'm there with no intentions of bring one or two home(not just yet). I felt so bad today for 1 kitty Ringo. He was totally in love with another cat Dutchess, who just go adopted. He is miserable, he bit someone right after she left and drew blood. Poor guy...(not the person, the cat)..Even a cat knows what it's like to lose something they love. I wonder if a picture of her on his cage would help..Oh well, Hopefully he'll be better next time I see him...By, the way I can't even look at and orange cat now without thinking of Zita and Ziggy...Ann

Oh Ann, that is so sweet. You don't know what it means to me to have friends that wouldn't even know me to pass me on the street but are so full of kindness and good wishes. Thank you!!

How hard it is to not be able to bring one of those sweeties home, yet I understand what you are going through because for us it simply isn't the right time to bring any new kitty into our lives. Our old girl Rosie is failing - she is a 17 yr old border collie - and it wouldn't be fair to focus on someone new right now. But not only that, I have the dilemma of the whole safety issue of cats in this neighbourhood. I saw two orange tabby kittens (both boys) and a grey female when I went to the vet to help a friend whose border collie has had a major injury. The poor little kitty girl was clearly having irritation in her throat, but she had just been spayed and apparently they put a tube down her throat. I could see the soul in her eyes and that was hard, especially seeing her pain. The one orange tabby boy was very mischievious - trying to pull in the strap on my purse then whacking me one through the bars of his cage. The other boy was trying to comfort the grey girl, poor little thing - I sure hope she's feeling better now. I do think often about finding two very special kitties in February and having my two return in another form. I know some people don't believe in that, and honestly I don't know what I really believe in that realm, but some people swear that pets have come back to them. I am at least open to it, and hopeful. I have been painting a picture of Ziggy and I think I need to do these things to express my feelings. I know that she knows how I love her, as does Zita. It is just hard with the distance of time and space...

take care Ann, and again - thank you for thinking of my kitties. BTW, Zeus has become rather cuddly lately. He's even come into the dreaded office several times during the past few days.

bye for now

Jan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-4BojWdjRE


Landslide

I took my love, I took it down
Climbed a mountain and I turned around
I saw my reflection in the snow covered hills
till the landslide brought me down

Oh, mirror in the sky
What is love
Can the child within my heart rise above
Can I sail thru the changing ocean tides
Can I handle the seasons of my life

Well, I’ve been afraid of changing
cause I’ve built my life around you
But time makes you bolder
Children get older
I’m getting older too

Oh, take my love, take it down
Climb a mountain and turn around
If you see my reflection in the snow covered hills
Well the landslide will bring it down

If you see my reflection in the snow covered hills
Well maybe the landslide will bring it down

Jan, I LOVE that picture so much, I just had to print it out. It will be on my locker at work tomorrow. Thanks for sharing it.. Ann..