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macgrl
post Mar 25 2007, 08:58 AM
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Does anyone have any recommendations on books or websites with the best pet recipe plans that works well for them? I have been to a few sites already and was curious if anyone on here had any helpful advice? I was going to buy this book

http://www.amazon.com/Food-Pets-Die-Shocki...9260119-6899954

but one of the reviews said that this book was "Good Info on Commercial Pet Food - Bad Info on Homemade Diet" Any recommendations?
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macgrl
post Apr 7 2007, 10:19 AM
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I have been doing some research on this subject and I got this link to a interview with the AAFCO president about what types of bone meal go into food. He basically admits to using dead cats and dogs for food.

http://home.att.net/~srcusick/deaddogsinfood.avi

Here are some sites on homemade pet food and proper feeding I have found so far:

http://home.att.net/~wdcusick/index.html
http://www.healthrecipes.com/pet_supply.htm
http://www.i-love-dogs.com/dog-food-recipes.html
http://www.dogaware.com/
http://www.cooksrecipes.com/category/pet-recipes.html
http://www.naturaldogfood.com/
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mbrammer
post Apr 7 2007, 11:21 AM
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Recipes for Homemade Diets - Feline
retyped and annotated by: Vick

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We've included these diets for those who would like to home cook for their special needs pets but don't know what or how. Hill's Science Diet provides recipes for homemade versions of their prescription diets to clients whose pets wouldn't eat the canned or dry versions of their Prescription Diets. The sheet these recipes came from is Copyright by Hill's Pet Products, 1989.

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Feline Restricted Protein Diet
Feline Reducing Diet
Feline Restricted Mineral and Sodium Diet
Feline Hypoallergenic Diet
Feline Restricted Protein Diet:
1/4 lb. liver (beef, chicken or pork only)
2 cups cooked white rice without salt
2 large hard cooked eggs, finely chopped
1 tablespoon vegetable oil
1 teaspoon (5 grams) calcium carbonate (health food stores or ground egg shells)
1/8 teaspoon potassium chloride (salt subst*itute products)
Also add a balanced supplement which fulfills the feline MDR for all vitamins and minerals and 250 mg taurine/day.
Dice and braise the meat retaining the fat. Combine all ingredients and mix well. Add water (not milk) as necessary to increase palatability. Keep extra food covered in refrigerator.

Yields 1 1/4 lbs.

Feeding Guide
Cat Weight Amount to Feed
(per Day) &%^ysis
5 lb. 1/4 lb Protein 7.3 %
7-8 lb. 1/3 lb Fat 5.3 %
10 lb. 2/3 lb Carbohydrate 15.8 %
Moisture 70.0 %
Metabolizable Energy
635 kcal./lb.


A restricted protein Prescription Diet food, Feline k/d is available in canned and dry formulas. Please call your vet's office if you have any questions.

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Feline Reducing Diet:

1 & 1/4 lb. liver (beef, chicken or pork only)
1 cup cooked white rice without salt
1 teaspoon vegetable oil
1 teaspoon (5 grams) calcium carbonate (health food stores or ground egg shells)
1/8 teaspoon potassium chloride (salt subst*itute products)
Also add a balanced supplement which fulfills the feline MDR for all vitamins and minerals and 250 mg taurine/day.
Cook the meat, pour off the fat. Grind well. Stir in remaining ingredients and mix well. Keep extra food covered in refrigerator.

Yields 1 3/4 lbs.

Feeding Guide
Cat Weight Amount to Feed
(per Day) &%^ysis
5 lb. 1/4 lb Protein 15.5 %
7-8 lb. 1/3 lb Fat 3.4 %
10 lb. 2/3 lb Carbohydrate 9.2 %
Moisture 70.0 %
Metabolizable Energy
585 kcal./lb.


After the cat has attained his or her optimum weight, a good quality maintenance diet at a level that just maintains the
optimum weight. Snacking and scavenging should be absolutely forbidden during the reducing period.

A reducing Prescription Diet food, Feline r/d is available in canned and dry formulas. Please call your vet's office if you have
any questions.

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Feline Restricted Mineral and Sodium Diet

1/4 lb. liver (beef, chicken or pork only)
1 lb. Ground beef, cooked
1 cup cooked white rice without salt
1 teaspoon vegetable oil
1 teaspoon calcium carbonate (health food stores or ground egg shells)
1/8 teaspoon potassium chloride (salt subst*itute products)
Also add a balanced supplement which fulfills the feline MDR for all vitamins and minerals and 250 mg taurine/day.
Cook the meat. Stir in remaining ingredients and mix well. Keep extra food covered in refrigerator.

Yields 1 3/4 lbs.

Feeding Guide
Cat Weight Amount to Feed
(per Day) &%^ysis
5 lb. 1/5 lb Protein 14.3 %
7-8 lb. 1/4 lb Fat 13.9 %
10 lb. 1/3 lb Carbohydrate 6.3 %
Moisture 64.0 %
Metabolizable Energy
940 kcal./lb.


A mineral restricted Prescription Diet food, Feline c/d is available in canned and dry formulas. Please call your vet's office if you have any questions.

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Feline Hypoallergenic Diet
(note: this is identical to their canine hypoallergenic diet except for the potassium chloride, and the protein seems way too low for a cat. Personally, I'd increase the lamb to 1 lb and reduce the rice to 1/2 cup, which will change at least protein and carb levels.... heck, just check with your vet on ways to adjust the protein to get the results you need smile.gif

1/4 lb. diced lamb
1 cup cooked white rice without salt
1 teaspoon vegetable oil
1 1/2 teaspoon di-calcium phosphate (health food stores or bone meal)
1/8 teaspoon potassium chloride (salt subst*itute products)
Also add a balanced supplement which fulfills the feline MDR for all vitamins and minerals and 250 mg taurine/day.
Trim the fat from lamb. Cook thoroughly (braise or roast) without seasoning. Stir in remaining ingredients and mix well.
Keep extra food covered in refrigerator.

Yields 2/3 lbs.

Feeding Guide
Cat Weight Amount to Feed
(per Day) &%^ysis
5 lb. 1/5 lb Protein 7.0 %
7-8 lb. 1/3 lb Fat 10.0 %
10 lb. 2/5 lb Carbohydrate 14.0 %
Moisture 66.0 %
Metabolizable Energy
795 kcal./lb.


If the allergy is suspected to be food induced, maintain the patient on this diet and distilled (my note again: I'd use spring or bottled drinking water instead). Then expose the patient to foods one at a time, beginning with tap water, to discover offending materials. The aim of this provocative exposure is to determine foods the patient CAN eat rather than those the patient cannot eat.

A hypoallergenic Prescription Diet food, Canine (this comes right from the Hill's sheet) d/d is available in canned form. Check with your veterinarian.

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mbrammer
post Apr 7 2007, 11:26 AM
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http://www.2ndchance.info/homemadediets.htm

another source for home diet without purchasing a book of course check with your vet before changing your pets diet they may have their own recipe that is right for your pet.
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Muffins
post Apr 7 2007, 12:37 PM
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We have two precious furkids (Ms. Lucy wub.gif & Mr. Yoster wub.gif ). Ms. Lucy is an insulin dependent diabetic, hyperthyroid & asthmatic.

I'm following Dr. Elizabeth Hodgkin's protocol to the best of my ability. I urge you to check out her site whether or not your kids are diabetic.

Lucy has been a diabetic since October, 2004.
Her insulin requirements were 5 - 6 units per day (when she was on DRY FOOD & canned), and now she is down to 1 - 1.2 units per day! biggrin.gif

Now that shows what taking away that awful dry food can do & switching over to a wholesome, nutritionally complete raw diet can do! I wish I had known about the benefits of "getting rid of dry food" earlier, but......better late than never!

http://yourdiabeticcat.com/

Also, you might want to look into Dr. Lisa Pierson's site. She has a great recipe for raw food which she feeds her cats. (I am looking into purchasing a grinder - something that will grind up bones, so that we can make our own raw food smile.gif ).

http://www.catinfo.org/

We changed our kids to a raw diet (as of 2/20 this year), and order our food from

http://www.felinespride.com/

Unfortunately, Mr. Yoster hasn't developed a taste for raw yet.....but, we're still working on him tongue.gif .

Peace & Love to you all,

Denise


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Chaos, my little...
post May 1 2007, 09:27 PM
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I would agree with Denise (Muffins) completely. Another good link is http://www.hare-today.com/. They grind up a variety of small animals and freeze them. They include bones, organs and of course the muscle (the whole animal is essential for cats to get all the vitamins, amino acids, minerals, etc. that they need). I am starting my two cats on the raw diet as soon as my order from hare-today gets here. I'll post the results for others to read if they're interested.


Much Love,

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nickels
post Oct 22 2007, 08:00 PM
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The more I read and the more I experience life and corporate greed, the more I want to take action and quit wining about it. I'm not sure about everyone else but, this is the last topic at Lightning-Strike I looked at. Shame On Me!! Guess I should think twice about that! You guys have some awesome recipes and links! I want to start my own recipe book for my 3 babies and I'm starting here!

In addition to what is listed above, I found a site called "mamameowsfreebies". The link is: My Webpage. I found this link BUT, I have not tried these recipes nor have I ran them by a Veteranarian or Holistic Vet. I just thought it was an interesting site if you want to get away from store bought brands of pet food or if your just looking for supplement recipes.

Michelle


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Nickels story
http://lightning-strike.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=4242
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Muffins
post Nov 21 2007, 12:40 PM
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Hi Everyone:

If you're interested in learning about feeding raw meats to your cats, there is a great group at "Yahoo! PETS groups", called "rawcat".

There is a lot of great information there -- it's wonderful to keep learning.

Have a peaceful day,

Denise


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April, 1984 - February 7, 2004
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Forever, you will ALWAYS live on in our hearts!
DEPARTED FROM EARTH, NEVER FORGOTTEN.... Love, Mom & Dad xoxoxoxoxo


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"Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight" Albert Schweitzer
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Beaglegirl
post Feb 19 2008, 08:54 PM
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I work for a vet, and we wholehearted agree with home cooking for your pets.
BUT, some things to remember.
Number one, if you are hard pressed for time and can't cook for yourself, don't feel guilty, there are some SMALL pet food companies if you do your research that use human grade food.
If you have kids or elderly or immunocompromised people living in your house we do not recommend raw diets. In the RARE instance you feed food contaminated with salmonella, it can be passed in fecal material.
Dogs and cats can tolerate these bacteria loads literally THOUSANDS of times greater than the human gut can, and not become sick. Then they can pass these bacteria in their stool at hundreds of times greater than our bodies can fight.
AND they can pass it to your family. Just something to keep in mind. Yes, chances are rare, but my dogs sit on the same couch I lay on, and all it takes is a cheetoe from the cushions with a dog butt on it to transfer bacteria the good ol' fecal/oral route. (I don't want to get TOO graphic)
Another thing:
SUPPLEMENT SUPPLEMENT SUPPLEMENT!!!! Use a CANINE or FELINE multivitamin. Also recommended is Salmon oil. Never use your vitamins, they aren't in the same proportion that pets need. I use vetriscience products. They also have a WHOLE LINE of holistic supplements JUST FOR PETS (well, they have human stuff too)

The major problem with home cooked diets is ensuring proper mineral, nutrient, and fatty acid concentrations. They can all be missing, so it is best to supplement.
Really good things
Rice, brown and white, chicken, lamb, fish (deboned of course!)
Turkey, and venison. Beef is also a good choice for some dogs, but my dog is allergic to beef.
Apples, brocolli, cabbage, zucchini, peas, carrots, pumpkin, GOOD GOOD GOOD

Onions, raisens, grapes, BAD BAD BAD

I do feed a dry kibble, (Canidae) but I also home cook for my pets.

KEEP TRACK OF YOUR PETS DIET!!!! Keep a log!!! That way you know when the food was cooked, and when and what was fed to your pet.
It is best to keep the diet varied and stable at the same time. Sorry if that sounds confusing... But, if your pet develops gastrointestinal distress, vomiting, diarrhea, gas, you will need to know which foods caused them so you can avoid them in the future. also, some pets are allergic to certain foods. If you make a big old stew with ten gazzilion ingredients, and your pet gets ill, you won't be able to tell which ingredient caused it.

It is best to start SLOW and reintroduce new foods very gradually.
Start with only one or two ingredients. Build as your pets digestive system acclimates.
"Bone" appet*ite!

I'm also a BIG fan of home cooking my pets dog biscuits. Kids can help, and it is a LOT of fun smile.gif


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