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Zita'sMom
post Sep 23 2008, 06:44 PM
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I just went to put a new poster up to "Ziggy's shooter" on the local mailboxes - there are two main mailboxes in our area, three if you go a bit further, and there is another sign. "A Psycho shot our Yorkie".

Apparently the dog was shot in the flank and bled heavily. This is not next door, but in the same rural area. Whoever shot Ziggy is out to kill more pets.

Zita went missing in October and many other signs for missing cats have appeared on mailboxes. I will go to talk to the people with the Yorkie tomorrow and to the constable in charge as well as to the newspapers and television station. I will be posting more flyers.

I can't even express in words how angry, drained, shocked and devastated I am. We live in a very, very dangerous area for our pets and I don't know what to do. My pets are my life!

The extension of our "dream house" on a beautiful acreage has drained us in health, finances and many personal costs/sacrifices, but losing the cats is the absolute worst. Knowing the shooter is out looking for more prey is... oh my God, I am just sick.

We have 5 dogs all rescues, now just one cat (3 dead all under 5 years old since 2006). Our old border collie sometimes gets onto the road. This person / people is sick, sick, sick. I just don't know what to do. Moving is not yet an option because the reno's aren't even complete. This is a total nightmare!

I live in a war zone. Even if we leave, someone is out there shooting innocent pets and other creatures for the pure entertainment of watching an animal fight for it's life... This is not accidental, there is no way a Yorkie looks like a squirrel or a rodent (and shooting them is sick enough as it is).

sick, sick, sick.

My heart hurts. What can I do? This has to stop.

Jan.
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post Sep 23 2008, 07:04 PM
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I just went to put a new poster up to "Ziggy's shooter" on the local mailboxes - there are two main mailboxes in our area, three if you go a bit further, and there is another sign. "A Psycho shot our Yorkie".

Apparently the dog was shot in the flank and bled heavily. This is not next door, but in the same rural area. Whoever shot Ziggy is out to kill more pets.

Zita went missing in October and many other signs for missing cats have appeared on mailboxes. I will go to talk to the people with the Yorkie tomorrow and to the constable in charge as well as to the newspapers and television station. I will be posting more flyers.

I can't even express in words how angry, drained, shocked and devastated I am. We live in a very, very dangerous area for our pets and I don't know what to do. My pets are my life!

The extension of our "dream house" on a beautiful acreage has drained us in health, finances and many personal costs/sacrifices, but losing the cats is the absolute worst. Knowing the shooter is out looking for more prey is... oh my God, I am just sick.

We have 5 dogs all rescues, now just one cat (3 dead all under 5 years old since 2006). Our old border collie sometimes gets onto the road. This person / people is sick, sick, sick. I just don't know what to do. Moving is not yet an option because the reno's aren't even complete. This is a total nightmare!

I live in a war zone. Even if we leave, someone is out there shooting innocent pets and other creatures for the pure entertainment of watching an animal fight for it's life... This is not accidental, there is no way a Yorkie looks like a squirrel or a rodent (and shooting them is sick enough as it is).

sick, sick, sick.

My heart hurts. What can I do? This has to stop.

Jan.


Oh No! {{{{{{{Jan}}}}}}} I realize what I'm about to say is a very, very tall order. First of all, breathe. Don't forget to breathe. Breathe slowly in through your nose, then release your breath out of your mouth. Repeat again and again. You are a nervous wreck right now and that's very understandable since it appears apparent that there is a serial animal shooter/killer in your area.

Next, keep your kitty indoors. I know your kitty hates that but you've got to do it. Okay? I used to walk my one of my cats after training him to use a harness and leash. You may take your kitty for walks using a harness (NOT a collar outdoors) and a leash. Don't let your kitty out of your sight. I assume your kitty is litter trained for the indoors? If not, then make it so right now.

Next, what can you do to keep your old border collie off that road? How can you keep your dogs all near your house on your property?
If you do not have a fence, there is a simple and inexpensive solution.

I will wait for your response before I go any further.

Breathe, Jan. Okay? Breathe and talk with me and us. I'm here.

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post Sep 23 2008, 07:29 PM
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Just a quick note: Jan, the solution is Not to put your dogs on chains. That's called tethering. It is bad and cruel. Do not use chains or ropes tied to any kind of anything in order to secure your dogs. I know I didn't have to say that but wanted to make sure you and everyone knows that is not done. It is a bad thing to do.

There are invisible fences for dogs. Have you heard of them? Let me google to see how expensive they are. I'll be back.

Tons of Comforting Hugs!!!

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post Sep 23 2008, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE (Zita'sMom @ Sep 23 2008, 07:44 PM) *
My heart hurts. What can I do? This has to stop.


Oh Jan........I am horrified and in tears again after having read that once again this monster has struck. You must be absolutely beside yourself with worry. I feel just awful for you and what you are going through. It's difficult for me to understand the mindset of one who can commit such atrocities with blatant malice.

I'm not sure what you can do except to keep your precious furfamily as close to you as possible until this maniac is caught. He/she is bound to slip up and get caught.

As for me, I am going to pray and ask Him to stop the killing before anymore animals are targeted. When my heart feels burdened and I am powerless to change something, I ask for our Lord's divine intervention. Tonight I will ask that it stop NOW!!!

Much love to you Jan. I'm sending you hugs of comfort and peace as well.

Hugs and love from my heart to yours,
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post Sep 23 2008, 08:34 PM
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I have been reading all your posts about your Sweet Baby's past and the way it was, I want to tell you how sick, hurt and sorry I am. I mean I wanted to tell you the way I feel since the first time I found out but I was speechless and did not know what to say to you, that was a sick cruel thing to do to one of our Furbaby but he-she will pay for it in this world not in the other one, wanted to tell you how sorry I am you have lost such beautiful Baby, always here if you need me, Jorge wub.gif Attached Image
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post Sep 23 2008, 08:45 PM
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I am horrified and in tears again after having read that once again this monster has struck. You must be absolutely beside yourself with worry. I feel just awful for you and what you are going through. It's difficult for me to understand the mindset of one who can commit such atrocities with blatant malice.

I'm not sure what you can do except to keep your precious furfamily as close to you as possible until this maniac is caught. He/she is bound to slip up and get caught.


Hi Beth. I also feel horrified but am not in tears because I feel so ticked off that you cannot imagine the foul language going through my head right now. Yet, I am doing my best to remain calm and come up with the first step. That first step which one takes when a serial killer is on the lose is to protect your fur kids, family and yourself ... Yes, I am seeing Red. Red. Red!

I've seen this ... Sorry, almost used a bad word ... I've seen this type of act before and more than once. I do feel sick to my stomach and really want to go Jackie Chan on some arse or arses. The mindset is simple. Google sociopath. Here, I'll do it for you ...

Profile of a Sociopath ... Click Here: http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

What is the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath? Not much! Click below ...

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-differ...a-sociopath.htm

They know it's wrong, it is a mental disorder but does not constitute insanity. These monsters are the pox on the planet and all need to be behind bars. They will not change because they do not want to change. I'll stop there for now because I feel my blood pressure rising.

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As for me, I am going to pray and ask Him to stop the killing before anymore animals are targeted. When my heart feels burdened and I am powerless to change something, I ask for our Lord's divine intervention. Tonight I will ask that it stop NOW!!!

Much love to you Jan. I'm sending you hugs of comfort and peace as well.

Hugs and love from my heart to yours,
Beth


God Bless You Dear Sweet Beth!!!

Okay. Jan, as I was saying, the first thing you need to do is to take measures to protect your fur kids, your family and yourself. Here's some preliminary information and I'm still working on it. Dang! I am grinding my teeth. I feel that much rage and ... You don't need to hear that, Jan. That's not going to help you except to know you're not alone in the rage and horror that you're feeling ... And "D" it ... You are very justified feeling that way! Pausing to collect myself ... Oh, the preliminary information ...

First: This company has a toll free number at the upper right of their Website but the add looks like they may be pretty gosh dang expensive. This is just a sample but is safe for cats and dogs. I just now tried to call the toll free number to get more information and was prompted to enter my area code then was given the business name and phone number in my own area. All was automated. That toll free number is 1-866-804-1250 ... Here is the Link ...

http://www.invisiblefence.com/

Next:

Even the toughest dogs learn their boundaries. I do Not know if this is also safe for cats but it can be used for as many dogs as you have, Jan.

Price: $195.25

This electric dog fence system was designed to handle the really stubborn dogs. It will also operate as many collars and contain as many dogs as you desire. The adjustable correction zone allows you to set the boundary as far as 20 feet from the buried wire.

With a range of up to 10 acres, big yards aren't a problem. This makes the Stubborn Dog Fence good for neighborhoods or farms. With a larger yard comes larger responsibility. That's why the stubborn dog system features an audio wire break alarm, as well as a blinking light on the transmitter to warn you if the wire has been broken. System comes with 500 feet of wire, 50 training flags, 1 collar, 1 transmitter and waterproof splicers. Recommended for dogs 10 pounds and up, this containment system will work on even the strongest willed dogs.

Here's the Link ...

http://www.pet-super-store.com/html/Stubbo...adio-Fence.html

And here is the main Website where I found the above ...

http://www.pet-super-store.com/pet-supplie...ric-dog-fences/

The above also has above ground UltraSmart In-Ground Pet Fencing. It is more expensive and appears less effective but I only just skimmed it. Here's the direct Link ...

http://www.pet-super-store.com/html/UltraS...et-Fencing.html

This next one is only for one dog so would ultimately cost you more than the top one since you have 5 dogs. It would cost $148.04 for one single dog and here's the Link ...

http://www.pet-super-store.com/html/Radio-...--Standard.html

The above site also has a Toll Free Number: 1-800-507-5908

I'm still looking and I shall return with information on how to catch the killer. He Must Be Stopped Now!!!

Your Friendly Warrior Angel,
Dottie xoxoxox
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post Sep 23 2008, 09:41 PM
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OMG. These monsters even have a Website which includes many areas including a discussion forum. You would not believe the horrible things those criminals post on that board! No. I shall not post the link. There is an area where you can ask a sociopath or psychopath a question and it says the response will be posted in one of the areas of the Website. I asked, "How does one catch a sociopath who is killing people's pets in a neighborhood?" Of course, I don't have a response yet. I'm off to find something more substantial but will check back to see what, if any, response I do get to my question at that Website.

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post Sep 23 2008, 11:25 PM
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Dear Jan, I'm gathering more information: First the question, then the "Best Answer" followed by the link leading to other answers. By the way, I did google "sociopaths killing people's pets" and I am leaving in the question poser's typographical errors ...

Question: My 16 year old son likes to kill neighborhood cats, can I get in trouble?

My 16 year old son has been riding around with a buddy of his killing neighborhood cats with a crossbow. They claim to have killed over a hundred. The local paper just reported a story on a cat killer and I think they are refering to my boy. I'm not going to report him or anything he is my son and I certainly dont care about the stupid cats, they are just a menace. I'm just wondering if I can get into trouble. does killing cats ever cary any real penalty? If not he can kill away, I just don't want the police knocking on my door one night, Any advice?
2 weeks ago

Best Answer Chosen by Voters:

I am greatly disturbed by this question, and if this is a troll asking, very often the questions or answers we write come from our unconscious issues, as well. You sound like you are very angry about something to ask a question of this kind that you know will disturb this group.

But just in case this is not a troll question, and the question is legitimate, I am shocked by your lack of appropriate parenting.

Worrying more about if you will be in trouble more than the emotional problems which your son is exhibiting is very troubling. It sounds to me that both you and your son could benefit from counseling to resolve the underlying issues which are impacting the issue in which you are describing.

Animal abuse is often the first indication of future spousal and child abuse frequently transfers to spousal and child abuse.
http://www.americanhumane.org/site/PageSer...act_sheets_link

I just hope that someone catches your son in the act so further destructive and dangerous behavior may be prevented.

Troublesniffer
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2 weeks ago

Link ... http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...04101805AAP5XWw

As I stated, others made responses at the Link above.

I'm going back in to penetrate the mind of sociopaths and psychopaths who kill people's pets, their own pets and other animals in order to hopefully find a pattern. As an aside, I did register to join that Website I mentioned in post # 7 above this one. Lots of information at that very, very disturbing Website and I want to study it in order to ... You already know why.

This Angel is on the war path. Legally, of course. Danged sick stuff I'm reading, people. Sick! Sick! Sick!

Your Friendly Warrior Angel,
Dottie xoxoxox

Important Note! First will google those high tech binoculars to see how much they cost and where they can be purchased. I feel sure that staking out that mailbox and seeing just who is ripping down those posters will be a great help in apprehending this criminal. Oh, it may not be the killer who is ripping down your posters. But I'll bet my bottom dollar whoever is ripping them down has some information that will lead to the pet killer ... And possibly if not probably knows who the pet killer is and is trying to protect that person(s) or ... Something ... Just free flowing thoughts here ... Oh, will try YouTube as well but first the binoculars I talked about in another post of yours, Jan. Here I go >>>>>>>
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post Sep 24 2008, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE (AngelCareOne @ Sep 23 2008, 08:04 PM) *
Next, what can you do to keep your old border collie off that road? How can you keep your dogs all near your house on your property?


Hi Dottie

I saw a "live" friend this evening so haven't been back to the computer. We are fenced in, we will have to make sure all gates are shut. They are only outside on their own first thing in the morning and just before bed to relieve themselves but I am with them outdoors all other times.

Zeus - well that's hard. I have very mixed feelings about keeping him indoors always. He is such an outdoor cat. I know he is at risk. I spoke to an animal communicator on Sunday who said that Zeus really needed the outdoors, and I tend to agree. This whole thing breaks me up because quality of life is important too - for my pets and for me and living in a sort of prison at home just feels so wrong. I have to think about this. I keep telling him it's not safe, but he "tells" me he just wants to be out in the morning. He has been back in the early afternoon and at night. 4 acres in a no-traffic area and I am keeping an outdoor cat inside - I know all the reasons to do it. I just really have to think on all of it.

Tomorrow I will talk to the people with the Yorkie or with the police and will go from there. But the papers and tv station will hear about it.

I am trying to see if I can purchase a security camera that records what happens on the road - like the ones in stores that record criminals. If anyone knows of such a thing that is inexpensive and inconspicous please let me know. I need to start finding out who is coming down this road, especially Saturdays because that is when Zita and Zeus both went missing. The Yorkie, I wonder - it was on the weekend but I'm not sure when.

Thanks for all your links - I've always had fenced in yards and it was more in the trust and very minimal traffic that our old dog went on the road. It happens very rarely but I'm fully aware of the risk by this sicko.

more soon

Jan.

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post Sep 24 2008, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE (goliath @ Sep 23 2008, 09:20 PM) *
As for me, I am going to pray and ask Him to stop the killing before anymore animals are targeted. When my heart feels burdened and I am powerless to change something, I ask for our Lord's divine intervention. Tonight I will ask that it stop NOW!!!

Much love to you Jan. I'm sending you hugs of comfort and peace as well.

Hugs and love from my heart to yours,
Beth


Beth - thank you. I do believe in the power of prayer and positive thinking. I keep doing the same and asking for help and guidance in stopping the murderer.

6 months maximum jail time or $2,000 is not much punishment even if caught. But I do believe there is a higher source that is an equalizer for injustice... I also believe, my own personal belief, that when we cross we have a life review and feel all the impact of our actions on others. This is probably a belief that helps me cope with the injustices of the world.

I must also believe that Zita and Ziggy are safe and loved and cared for wherever they are now.

thank you for caring.

Jan.
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post Sep 24 2008, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE (AngelCareOne @ Sep 24 2008, 12:25 AM) *
This Angel is on the war path. Legally, of course. Danged sick stuff I'm reading, people. Sick! Sick! Sick!

Your Friendly Warrior Angel,
Dottie xoxoxox

Important Note! First will google those high tech binoculars to see how much they cost and where they can be purchased. I feel sure that staking out that mailbox and seeing just who is ripping down those posters will be a great help in apprehending this criminal. Oh, it may not be the killer who is ripping down your posters. But I'll bet my bottom dollar whoever is ripping them down has some information that will lead to the pet killer ... And possibly if not probably knows who the pet killer is and is trying to protect that person(s) or ... Something ... Just free flowing thoughts here ... Oh, will try YouTube as well but first the binoculars I talked about in another post of yours, Jan. Here I go >>>>>>>


Oh Dottie thanks - I am sorry to get you so riled up, you have enough going on!

I do need to figure out a camera sort of auto picture type thing. The mailboxes are far away from my home, I wish I could set something up there. Kinda hard for me to hide there too it's a pretty open spot....

But, I am going to post a new poster once I hear from the Yorkie's owners. I am going to put out a plea that everyone pay very close attention to anyone on the road, walking on the road, driving on the road etc etc

Someone I bet knows something, and I need them to simply have to spill it...

I can't live in a neighbourhood like this. Even if I move this person(s) will strike again. I have to do whatever I can to stop it. At the same time I feel major anxiety about not having any clues and not having a starting point. I am not a vigilante type person, this sort of thing really hurts me deeply and if all I can do is pray about it, and write posters... well I just need for the right guidance, clues to come my way. This person has to be stopped.

I do believe in the power of group prayer or thought, so if anyone reading can send thoughts that this person stop or be stopped in their killings please send that out...

thanks again Dottie

Jan.
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post Sep 24 2008, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE (havana @ Sep 23 2008, 09:34 PM) *
I have been reading all your posts about your Sweet Baby's past and the way it was, I want to tell you how sick, hurt and sorry I am. I mean I wanted to tell you the way I feel since the first time I found out but I was speechless and did not know what to say to you, that was a sick cruel thing to do to one of our Furbaby but he-she will pay for it in this world not in the other one, wanted to tell you how sorry I am you have lost such beautiful Baby, always here if you need me, Jorge wub.gif Attached Image


Jorge, thank you so much for your thoughts. Do you really think this person will pay for his/her actions in "this" world? I really hope so. It is scary when the person thinks of killing pets as a game of entertainment and laughing at my pain by putting bullet holes through my poster. Then shooting more pets. These are the same people that murder humans as well.

Both my cats that are gone were ever so trusting. I just hate to think they walked right into the aim of a killer. Wherever they are I hope they are cared for and loved as much as I did. I have to believe they are safe and in a wonderful place.

It is nice to have your support - I have read many of your posts also and I know you share in the pain of loss as do all of us here.

take care

Jan.

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post Sep 24 2008, 01:28 AM
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QUOTE (Zita'sMom @ Sep 24 2008, 01:44 AM) *
Jorge, thank you so much for your thoughts. Do you really think this person will pay for his/her actions in "this" world? I really hope so. It is scary when the person thinks of killing pets as a game of entertainment and laughing at my pain by putting bullet holes through my poster. Then shooting more pets. These are the same people that murder humans as well.

Both my cats that are gone were ever so trusting. I just hate to think they walked right into the aim of a killer. Wherever they are I hope they are cared for and loved as much as I did. I have to believe they are safe and in a wonderful place.

It is nice to have your support - I have read many of your posts also and I know you share in the pain of loss as do all of us here.

take care

Jan.

Thoughts and prayers you find your answers.. Don't give up. There's got to be a way to find out who, where and why. Get as much info from these people as possible. Time, day, etc. Hopefully they will cooperate, and compair it with yours. Calling all detective minds!!! We need help!! How about tying a stuff animal to a tel pole, stupid I know, Just to see how close to the house this person has come if the decoy get shot. Target practice purposes only, (don't get me wrong, I didn't want you to think someone might mistake it for a real animal).. I wish I had answers for you Jan, just prayers right now.. Hugs..Ann
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post Sep 24 2008, 10:25 AM
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Zeus - well that's hard. I have very mixed feelings about keeping him indoors always. He is such an outdoor cat. I know he is at risk. I spoke to an animal communicator on Sunday who said that Zeus really needed the outdoors, and I tend to agree. This whole thing breaks me up because quality of life is important too - for my pets and for me and living in a sort of prison at home just feels so wrong. I have to think about this. I keep telling him it's not safe, but he "tells" me he just wants to be out in the morning. He has been back in the early afternoon and at night. 4 acres in a no-traffic area and I am keeping an outdoor cat inside - I know all the reasons to do it. I just really have to think on all of it.


Dearest Jan, it's great to hear that your property is fenced in. That's a relief to know. Okay, I realize Zeus is an outdoor cat and that's what he loves and where he wants to be. Jan, imagine for a moment that you're Dr. Dolittle and can actually talk with the animals and they can talk with you. During this magic time, you sat down and explained to Zeus that there is a dangerous serial animal killer out there and Zeus could very well be the next victim. What do you think Zeus would say? Better yet, what to you believe the animal communicator would tell you now considering the latest event of the Yorkie being shot?

How about this. There's an F5 tornado outside where you live tossing debris, houses, 16 wheel trucks, derailing trains, pulling hundred year old trees out of the ground by the roots and flinging them at hundreds of miles per hour all over the place along with everything else and causing devastating damage. Do you let Zeus go outside during that tornado? Of course you don't. You wait until that tornado passes, the coast is clear and let him out again ...

That tornado is temporary and this hideous situation is temporary, too. This monster will be caught on this earthly plane and perhaps soon. Either that or he will get busted for some other unrelated crime and be sent to the slammer. It's doubtful that he'll move unless his situation makes it necessary for him (or them) to do so. It's not their modus operandi to move ...

However, and this is very bad news, it is this type's M.O. to change their method of killing when they become bored so wish to make things more interesting, thrilling or gratifying for themselves. Can you guess some of the other methods of killing cats and dogs that this monster will employ? I'm not certain how well you're acquainted with the way they work but it ain't pretty. Please remember that I have worked as a psychiatric nurse for several years of my 26 plus year career as well as in Animal Rescue and Rehabilitation for close to 30 years. Jan, I have seen this before. It's predictable. The good news about that predictability is that he (or they) do get/become careless and do get caught. Fact. Hugs!!!

Back to Zeus: Most cats will cry to go outside. I know mine have so I put a harness on them and walk them on a leash letting them take their time to sniff here and there and go wherever they wish at a very leisurely pace. There are inexpensive, light weight extender recoil leashes that extend to 25 feet and 50 feet which you can lock in place at the distance you feel most comfortable and unlock or pull in the slack of leash to make it shorter. You do know why you need to use a harness when a cat is outside and not a collar, right? Unless, of course, your cat has a special break away collar. Very important stuff to know.

I realize you feel trapped, helpless, angry, filled with rage, sorrow, grief, horror and like you're a prisoner in your own home. Your world has been shattered by a faceless monster but this is a temporary situation. I guarantee you, this is temporary. In the meantime, animals have no voice and no choice. You have to be their voice and choice. Please, I beg that you reconsider keeping Zeus safely indoors for just a while or I dread the next post you may be making, your heart more broken and your soul more shattered. So, please reconsider. Just for a while, Jan. Hugs!!!

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I do need to figure out a camera sort of auto picture type thing. The mailboxes are far away from my home, I wish I could set something up there. Kinda hard for me to hide there too it's a pretty open spot....


Jan, approximately how far away from where the posters are hung is the nearest large tree? Place to safely park a car so there will be no suspicion? A building where one or more "watchers" can either duck around the corner or go inside that has a window which points in the direction of those posters? Where you can place a large cardboard box or other place to hide inside with view pointed to those posters? How many feet or distance in city blocks? 1 block? 3 blocks? 5 blocks? More? A true story ...

I was married at private a garden on their island. The photographer took some photos from way on the other side of the lake near the woods almost a half a mile away and I thought he was out of his mind until I got those photos back with the rest. It was though he was just a few feet away. Amazing but true. Jan, something can be rigged up. I just need to know approximately how far away someone can safely "hide" along with the equipment while still having it point towards those posters.

Don't worry about or give a second thought to me doing foot work, Dear One. That's what I do. Save animals and help my friends. Love you bunches, Jan!

Your Friendly Warrior Angel,
Dottie xoxoxox
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post Sep 24 2008, 11:10 AM
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Hi, Jan. Here's some more information. I order practically all my fur kids' needs through PetCo. online. It's far less expensive than any pet store, grocery store and even WalMart and Kmart and that includes their small shipping charge. You don't need to be a member to purchase. They do have a toll free number to ask for help with any questions regarding any item or will help you locate any item. Here's their main Link ...

http://www.petco.com

Some cat harnesses. I love the reflective one but the others are nice, too. You'll find more at the Link above but I wanted to show you three samples ...

http://www.petco.com/product/104278/Petmat...ss-in-Pink.aspx

http://www.petco.com/product/7813/Petmate-...-Harnesses.aspx

http://www.petco.com/product/104292/Petmat...s-in-Black.aspx

And extender recoil leashes. Of course, regular leashes will cost less and that's what I used in the past with my kitties. They were all very happy campers. Here are some extender recoil leashes ...

http://www.petco.com/product/4359/Flexi-Mi...h-in-Black.aspx

http://www.petco.com/product/2017/Flexi-Cl...-in-Purple.aspx

http://www.petco.com/product/2016/Flexi-Lo...h-in-Green.aspx

As far as the binoculars go, I really need to know how powerful a magnification you need the zoom to be but have found several Websites for them.

IMPORTANT: The binoculars will be the biggest expense. However, the binoculars will be your greatest asset in catching the pet killer ... Fast! Perhaps others who have lost their pets will chip in and make this a group effort. I sure would. You bet!

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HI, Jan, please believe me when I say I do empathize with what you are going through with your furkids as well as the neighborhood furkds. I grew up in a very dangerous neighborhood - - my biological father thought we didn't deserve anything better. He was abusive of us as well as any furkids we tried to have in the household. So were the neighborhood children with whom I went to school with - - so I was not only abused at home but at school as well with no teacher intervention. This was close to 60 years ago when bullying was overlooked as "children being children." You need to know what your local laws are regarding animal abuse - will the perpetrator(s) be proseceuted and what will be the charges - - will they be misdemeanor or felony? You also need to engage the assistance of the local humane society. And with police assistance attempt to get a list of households who have registered or unregistered guns and other hunting weapons and have forensic evidence acquired from the animals - - companion and wild life - - who are being murdered. Of course this all depends on how serious your local police take these types of crimes, but indeed there is a sociopath loose in your neighborhood. And of course there is the benefit of group pressure on the local police for them to take this situation seriously because the next step for these perpetrators is a mass murder event if they are not caught and stopped. I never let my kitty kids roam - - when they are outside they are on tethers that allow them to access the places they enjoy in their fenced yard. I am so sorry that you are having to live this nightmare, Jan. Please keep us posted as to what happens. And please be sure to take care of yourself, your furkids, and your family from these sociopaths.

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I'm going back in to penetrate the mind of sociopaths and psychopaths who kill people's pets..


I'll penetrate their mind.

What state was this in?


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I'll penetrate their mind.

What state was this in?


Jon, that would be in the state of Anywhere, Planet Earth and I am getting some answers in the sociopath discussion forum which is part of the sociopath Website that I mentioned in one posts #7 and #8 on this thread. I'll keep you posted.

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QUOTE (Jon730 @ Sep 24 2008, 08:18 PM) *
I'll penetrate their mind.

What state was this in?



It's in BC Canada - penetrate away. This person(s) is really sick - more later.

Jan
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